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    Default Re: Heroin should be legalized

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    So why not get rid of them? It would be pretty easy to make a system where you can go and get prescribed heroin, but only after going through a quick review of safe heroin usage. After that, if you die, it's your own fault... but you probably won't.
    I believe you just contradicted yourself. Your asking me to get rid of these types of education and campaign services, and yet you suggest one yourself; and then you go on to suggest a rather blunt death waiver before using heroin?

    I would also like to know exactly what is your definition of "proper heroin use" is. I myself, do not believe heroin can be used properly seeing as there is that progression of tolerance with extended use.

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    If the government sold it, they would sell it "Pure" but it would be the worst part of the plant lol.
    Also, if you are suggesting the marketing of heroin, there will always be the low grade and the high grade. Some pure heroin, and some just the same as the street grade; mixed with other substances. Just bringing back many of the side effects that come from both pure and unpure heroin.

    • Chronic users may develop collapsed veins, infection of the heart lining and valves, abscesses, cellulites, and liver disease.
    • Pulmonary complications, including various types of pneumonia, may result from the poor health condition of the abuser, as well as from heroin's depressing effects on respiration.
    • Heroin may have additives that do not really dissolve and result in clogging the blood vessels that lead to the lungs, liver, kidneys, or brain.
    • Can cause infection or even death of small patches of cells in vital organs.
    • With regular heroin use, tolerance develops. This means the abuser must use more heroin to achieve the same intensity or effect.

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    Hmm I believe that everything statsme said is true. So therefore, why would any of you WANT to legalize this horrendous drug?

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    I believe you just contradicted yourself. Your asking me to get rid of these types of education and campaign services, and yet you suggest one yourself; and then you go on to suggest a rather blunt death waiver before using heroin?
    I suggested the elimination of what you said doesn't work: anti-drug campaigns.

    I would also like to know exactly what is your definition of "proper heroin use" is. I myself, do not believe heroin can be used properly seeing as there is that progression of tolerance with extended use.
    What's wrong with tolerance? It is not harmful in and of itself.

    My definition of "proper heroin use" is the following: 1.) use of pure heroin in measured doses, 2.) no drug combinations (i.e. heroin + cocaine), and 3.) use according to resources (no spending food money on heroin). Additives, as your quote notes, are a leading cause of problems; as one of my links (Peele's) notes, most overdoses are caused by combining drugs; and as your link also notes, prior poor health is another reason complications arise.

    Also, if you are suggesting the marketing of heroin, there will always be the low grade and the high grade.
    Yes, if it's illegal. If you think it will be the same with legal heroin, I would suggest you look at a medicine bottle and see how much it's been "cut".

    • Chronic users may develop collapsed veins, infection of the heart lining and valves, abscesses, cellulites, and liver disease.
    • Pulmonary complications, including various types of pneumonia, may result from the poor health condition of the abuser, as well as from heroin's depressing effects on respiration.
    • Heroin may have additives that do not really dissolve and result in clogging the blood vessels that lead to the lungs, liver, kidneys, or brain.
    • Can cause infection or even death of small patches of cells in vital organs.
    • With regular heroin use, tolerance develops. This means the abuser must use more heroin to achieve the same intensity or effect.

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    I'm glad someone is actually offering reasons and sources. For some reason, most people seem content to say "I think it's a bad idea" and never actually research. So there's a +1 for you. Despite that, none of this is referring to pure heroin and proper use. This is referring to common complications from street heroin use.

    • Collapsed veins, absesses, and any infection can occur only due to improper injection, dirty needles, or dirty heroin. (
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    • The source you quote mentions that pulmonary complications are usually due to the already poor health of the user. However, pulmonary edema (serious only if left untreated, generally) can occur and its cause is unknown. It may actually be heroin. However, it is linked to
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      , which is caused by mixing drugs, and to existing lung problems. It is worth noting that no cases of pulmonary edema appear in people prescribed heroin or other opioids.
    • The remaining problems mentioned by your source are caused by insoluble additives, as it itself admits. An interesting quote from one of the above linked sources: "Many drugs are very straining to the liver; heroin is not."



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    is an actual study that goes through the evidence for heroin's negative effects upon the body. Below is a pertinent quote.

    The study shows that morphine addiction is not characterized by physical deterioration or impairment of physical fitness aside from the addiction per se. There is no evidence of change in the circulatory, hepatic, renal or endocrine functions. When it is considered that these subjects had been addicted for at least five years, some of them for as long as twenty years, these negative observations are highly significant.
    (Heroin is metabolized into morphine, by the way.)
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    is a guide for doctors on whether or not to use opioids on their patients. Notice the only problem it mentions is addiction - no physical harm.

    Here are some more sources for you, so you know I'm not pulling stuff out of my ass.
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    I don't expect you to read all of them, but you can glance over them and see the consensus is clear: illegality is what makes heroin one of the most dangerous drugs... not the substance itself.

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    Hmm I believe that everything statsme said is true. So therefore, why would any of you WANT to legalize this horrendous drug?
    I'm glad you agree, but puzzled as to why you wouldn't want to legalize it... :p

    But more seriously, I'm a little surprised you'd buy into the government propaganda on this drug while supporting marijuana. Not that wanting to legalize one drug means you automatically should want to legalize the rest - but have you see some of the things people say about marijuana? Go to any junior high school and ask the kids what marijuana does to you. Chances are, you'll get a lot of stuff about killing brain cells and leading to harder drugs and blah blah blah.
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    I suggested the elimination of what you said doesn't work: anti-drug campaigns.


    What's wrong with tolerance? It is not harmful in and of itself.

    My definition of "proper heroin use" is the following: 1.) use of pure heroin in measured doses, 2.) no drug combinations (i.e. heroin + cocaine), and 3.) use according to resources (no spending food money on heroin). Additives, as your quote notes, are a leading cause of problems; as one of my links (Peele's) notes, most overdoses are caused by combining drugs; and as your link also notes, prior poor health is another reason complications arise.


    Yes, if it's illegal. If you think it will be the same with legal heroin, I would suggest you look at a medicine bottle and see how much it's been "cut".

    I'm glad someone is actually offering reasons and sources. For some reason, most people seem content to say "I think it's a bad idea" and never actually research. So there's a +1 for you. Despite that, none of this is referring to pure heroin and proper use. This is referring to common complications from street heroin use.

    • Collapsed veins, absesses, and any infection can occur only due to improper injection, dirty needles, or dirty heroin. (
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    • The source you quote mentions that pulmonary complications are usually due to the already poor health of the user. However, pulmonary edema (serious only if left untreated, generally) can occur and its cause is unknown. It may actually be heroin. However, it is linked to
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      , which is caused by mixing drugs, and to existing lung problems. It is worth noting that no cases of pulmonary edema appear in people prescribed heroin or other opioids.
    • The remaining problems mentioned by your source are caused by insoluble additives, as it itself admits. An interesting quote from one of the above linked sources: "Many drugs are very straining to the liver; heroin is not."



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    is an actual study that goes through the evidence for heroin's negative effects upon the body. Below is a pertinent quote.


    (Heroin is metabolized into morphine, by the way.)
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    is a guide for doctors on whether or not to use opioids on their patients. Notice the only problem it mentions is addiction - no physical harm.

    Here are some more sources for you, so you know I'm not pulling stuff out of my ass.
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    I don't expect you to read all of them, but you can glance over them and see the consensus is clear: illegality is what makes heroin one of the most dangerous drugs... not the substance itself.


    I'm glad you agree, but puzzled as to why you wouldn't want to legalize it... :p

    But more seriously, I'm a little surprised you'd buy into the government propaganda on this drug while supporting marijuana. Not that wanting to legalize one drug means you automatically should want to legalize the rest - but have you see some of the things people say about marijuana? Go to any junior high school and ask the kids what marijuana does to you. Chances are, you'll get a lot of stuff about killing brain cells and leading to harder drugs and blah blah blah.

    It is not government propaganda, it is basic knowledge living in the city. Heroine was made to rake in cash simply because of its highly addictive substance opiate. The opiate, for a reason unknown to me, is one of the hardest drugs to quit. So people end up spending every dime they have in order to get there fix until they are broke. Then they resort to crime as second measure to accomplish there goal of getting high. It is a drug that leads women to prostitution and has a high tendency to give people aids due to needle sharing.

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    I'm not sure how you can blame heroin for people misusing it (i.e., sharing needles). That's like saying cars should be illegal because some people are drunk drivers. Heroin is extremely addictive (less addictive than nicotine, though), but...

    Quick question: does every single heroin user spend all their money on heroin?

    More pertinent question: when a commodity is outlawed and can only be acquired on the black market, what happens to its price?
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    Even if the heroin is pure as you say, it will lead to an addiction, and in the end you will be living on the street (unless you're a rockstar...good luck supporting your habit). You can't do your job or raise children on heroin. Heroin is the most addicting drug out there amoung with oxycottin (leaving nicotine aside).

    When you lose your job and you're on the street because of heroin, the health factors do come into play. If you look at the surveys and studies available on google, you will see that the majority of homeless people are homeless due to drugs. If you dive deeper you will see that heroin, crack, and meth are the main culprits.

    People who do heroin have a detatchment from reality and get a euphoric sensation; this leads to them caring about themselves and only themselves. They will do anything and everything for their next fix.
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    You are correct in all you say, except
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    You can't do your job or raise children on heroin.
    The successful businessmen, or Artie Lange, quoted in two of my links above would beg to differ. Of course, Artie Lange is pretty wealthy, but the fact of the matter remains, not every person on heroin will lose their job and life.

    It is extremely addictive and it certainly seems like the majority of people have problems keeping their use reasonable, I will give you that. But again, I reiterate: what happens to a product's price when it is put on the black market? Opium addicts in Laos don't have any problem supporting their habit monetarily, because it's so cheap.

    If people use the stuff anyway, why not make sure it doesn't ruin their lives while they use it? It's like outlawing chocolate, and then saying "SEE? SEE? IT'S HUGELY EXPENSIVE AND ONLY DESPERATE CRIMINALS ARE INVOLVED WITH IT!"
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    Not all will lose there jobs or life but most will. IF legalized more people will do it because in there minds the government is treating it like everything else.

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    Too much to read. Statsme you argue for me please. Since we are on the same side. Just get your name changed to Llamider2 and we'll be like twins.

    Wtf?

    On Topic: Heroin is Yummy. How would you guys feel if i banned sex. Having heroin be illegal is like if someone banned sex. Its ridiculous! Amen.


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    Great minds think alike, Llamider.

    But you're right. Sex should be banned. Here are some consequences of having sex:

    • Sexually transmitted diseases like syphilis, chlamydia, genital warts, herpes, or AIDS kill millions of people every year!
    • Nearly
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      people have other STDs!
    • Pregnancy can result in physical complications as well as monetary ones. Babies cost even more than a heroin addiction! Plus, some people even abandon their babies or drink alcohol while pregnant!
    • STDs can not only kill you, but they can make your life a living hell - causing symptoms like insanity or uncontrollable diarrhea!
    • AIDS treatment usually costs about
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    As you can see, sex is much more dangerous than drugs. Sure, some people can use sex correctly... but since sex is legal, everyone thinks it's okay. If we made it illegal, and also prevented people from buying condoms or other methods of birth control and STD avoidance, the world would be such a better place!

    After all, it's worked really well for drugs, hasn't it?

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    Not all will lose there jobs or life but most will. IF legalized more people will do it because in there minds the government is treating it like everything else.
    That might be true. That also might not be true, because as the first link I posted shows, all evidence is that people use drugs less. But that's not even the most important thing: if heroin were legal, it would be possible to use it and have a normal life. Would everyone use it correctly? No, of course not. But it is clear that the current war on drugs is not working and only hurting the very people it's supposed to protect.
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    Here's top 3 google searches for "Heroine Detrimental Effects" (What's listed on those 3 sites)

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    here are many different types of heroin effects that                a drug user can experience, and heroin effects can be  extremely                detrimental to a person's mind and body. Heroin is an  opiate derived                from the drug morphine, and its highly addictive  properties and                quick acting-effects made it a popular street drug  immediately.              
                 Heroin is a relatively pricey drug, however,  even                after a person uses it for the first time, he/she will  most likely                become addicted to the heroin effects that are felt. The  idea of                'heroin chic' was popularized through advertising and  films in the                eighties and early nineties and told viewers that heroin  effects                such as losing one's appetite and becoming ghastly and  pale were                attractive. In reality, a heroin user's body is unable to  function                normally, and once heroin is put into the body the person  no longer                has any desires but to find more of the drug. 
                 Heroin can be smoked, snorted and injected  intravenously,                however the heroin effects felt from injecting the drug  are often                more intense, therefore more desirable. In recent years,  with the                large outbreak of drug-related HIV and AIDS cases, users  have tried                to be more cautious and have looked to snorting and  smoking as alternatives.                Aside from the heroin effects risk of contracting  incurable and                fatal diseases such as HIV/AIDS and hepatitis, the drug's  addictive                quality makes it extremely difficult for a user to ever  try to stop.              
                 When heroin is first infiltrated into a  person's body,                the brain's natural chemistry reacts with the heroin  toxins to create                what users describe as a feeling of 'euphoria'. Other  heroin effects                can also include dizziness, feeling as though the body has  become                heavy and the person cannot move, as well as nausea and a  change                in skin temperature. In addition , heroin users will also  begin                to feel tired, or as though the world no longer exists  around them                and their ability to function both mentally and physically  will                decrease. Heroin effects damage the nervous system and can  also                cause short and long term harm to the respiratory and  cardiovascular                systems. Because of the toxins in the drug, as well as the  way that                it is taken into the body, heroin is a drug that many  people overdose                on. While lucky people come out of the overdose alive and  unharmed,                others either die or have severe and permanent damage as a  result.              
                 Heroin users that continue to use the drug  will find                that they feel the heroin effect of addiction start to  take control                of them. Once a user comes down off the high the desire to  obtain                more of the drug grows in the form of an obsession or  craving. With                this obsession also comes a higher tolerance for the drug,  meaning                more is needed to experience the same heroin effects and  high. 
                 If and when a person comes down off heroin,  he/she                will experience a painful period from detoxing off of the  heroin                effects. Withdrawal symptoms can include diarrhea,  convulsions,                vomiting, and uncontrollable body movements. These heroin  effects                are quit possibly some of the most uncomfortable, however  they will                only last for a few days and can be effectively treated  with a medical                detox and 
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    . Site 2 What are its short-term effects? The short-term effects of heroin abuse appear soon after a single dose and disappear in a few hours.After an injection of heroin, the user reports feeling a surge of euphoria ("rush") accompanied by a warm flushing of the skin, a dry mouth, and heavy extremities. Following this initial euphoria, the user goes "on the nod," an alternately wakeful and drowsy state. Mental functioning becomes clouded due to the depression of the central nervous system. Other effects included slowed and slurred speech, slow gait, constricted pupils, droopy eyelids, impaired night vision, vomiting, constipation. What are its long-term effects? Long-term effects of heroin appear after repeated use for some period of time.Chronic users may develop collapsed veins, infection of the heart lining and valves, abscesses, cellulites, and liver disease. Pulmonary complications, including various types of pneumonia, may result from the poor health condition of the abuser, as well as from heroin's depressing effects on respiration.In addition to the effects of the drug itself, street heroin may have additives that do not really dissolve and result in clogging the blood vessels that lead to the lungs, liver, kidneys, or brain. This can cause infection or even death of small patches of cells in vital organs. With regular heroin use, tolerance develops. This means the abuser must use more heroin to achieve the same intensity or effect. As higher doses are used over time, physical dependence and addiction develop. With physical dependence, the body has adapted to the presence of the drug and withdrawal symptoms may occur if use is reduced or stopped. Withdrawal, which in regular abusers may occur as early as a few hours after the last administration, produces drug craving, restlessness, muscle and bone pain, insomnia, diarrhea and vomiting, cold flashes with goose bumps ("cold turkey"), kicking movements ("kicking the habit"), and other symptoms. Major withdrawal symptoms peak between 48 and 72 hours after the last does and subside after about a week. Sudden withdrawal by heavily dependent users who are in poor health can be fatal. Site 3 ow heroin produces a "high" One of the reasons heroin is so addictive is because it produces a rather dramatic "rush" or "high." A single dose can be enough to produce a rush, and the after-effects can persist hours later. Here is the progression of heroin's effects on the body:
    • After the injection of heroin (this is the most popular way to abuse heroin, but it can be snorted or smoked as well), euphoria is felt. This can take place within eight seconds after the injection. Snorting and smoking take longer for the effects to be felt.
    • The euphoria felt after the injection of the heroin comes with dry mouth, warm flushing on the skin and the feeling that your extremities (feet and hands) are heavy.
    • After the initial "rush" wears off, one's state fluctuates between drowsy and alert. This is called being "on the nod." In this state, judgment is clouded, and the feeling of heaviness in the extremities may persist. This leads to a surreal experience that some users find attractive.
    • Effects of heroin substance abuse on the body Heroin depresses, or slows down, the central nervous system. This can cause the heart rate to slow, and blood pressure to drop. Respiratory functions can also be impaired. Prolonged use of heroin can lead to heart and/or lung failure. Heroin creates conditions of bad health over all, making the body susceptible to illness. Liver disease and pneumonia are just a couple of the problems that can result from the body's lowered immune system abilities. Heroin is also a drug for which the body develops a tolerance. This means that as the body becomes used to the effects of heroin, more and more is needed in order to produce the "rush." Eventually, as increasingly high dosages are needed just to achieve the same thing that the first dose did, the body becomes dependent on the drug. This means that the body almost needs heroin to function. The heroin has negative effects of the body overall, but the body has become used to having the drug present in its system. Indirect effects of heroin substance abuse The culture of heroin substance abuse lends itself to certain effects that may not be directly related to the drug's effects on the body. However, these other effects can have very real and lasting effects on someone's long-term health. The repeated use of needles. Many people do not think about the effects the repeated use of needles can have in terms of heroin substance abuse. However, these effects should not be discounted. Because the fastest way to experience a "rush" is to inject the heroin directly into the blood stream, needle use is very common amongst heroin users. Unfortunately, the repeated use of needles can have very negative consequences:
    • Collapsed veins. Eventually, continually injecting heroin into the same spot can result in collapsed veins. This leads some heroin users to move on to another vein. Some heroin addicts have collapsed several veins as they move on to "usable" entrance points for needles.
    • Infectious diseases. Many heroin users actually use the drug in groups, often even at the dealer's location. This often results in shared needles. This means that it is possible to get diseases from infected users. Hepatitis and HIV/AIDS can be contracted this way. These are two diseases that, while they are often "managed," cannot be cured.
    Effects of additives to heroin. Sometimes heroin dealers mix the drug with other substances to stretch supply and make more money. This can be very dangerous. Some of the additives do not dissolve as well as heroin does, and this can lead to blood vessel clogging. This can lead to heart, lung and kidney problems. Heroin affects unborn children. It is important to remember that heroin will also affect a fetus. Heroin use can result in spontaneous abortion as well. Low birth rate among children that do survive prenatal heroin exposure is common, and this can cause developmental problems. Heroin substance abuse results in very real problems. The Drug Abuse Warning Network found that eight percent of emergency room visits that are drug related are a result of heroin use. Another four percent of drug related emergency room visits were the result of "unspecified" opiates - some of which could include heroin. It is vital to recognize the danger that heroin substance abuse can expose the user to.




    Do I really need to say anything else? Your sources are bullshit.


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    You're not the first person to copy and paste a big chunk of bullshit without reading it. You don't seem to have read either my sources or your own. Your own source includes only the following as a detrimental effect of pure heroin (the rest it admits come from infectious diseases, injection, or additives):
    Heroin creates conditions of bad health over all, making the body susceptible to illness. Liver disease and pneumonia are just a couple of the problems that can result from the body's lowered immune system abilities.
    Which is just
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    ... and misleading. As your source mentions further down, and as my sources mention, liver disease and pneumonia are only encountered when the heroin is contaminated or users share needles.
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    it in less lunatic countries.

    Even your own source lists no more negative effects from pure heroin.

    Now (like everyone else) you will never post in this thread again... like I predicted in the beginning.
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    • Heroin is extremely difficult to overdose on by itself. -Are you sure about this?
    • Heroin is harmless in terms of health effects if it is pure. -People will be abusing it to get high, whether or not it's legalized. And it would be illegal to abuse it to get high. It's not going to be pure when people are using to abuse.
    • Heroin withdrawal cannot kill you. -But it looks nasty, and when they can't stop, they'll just kill themselves.
    • Heroin only has debilitating health effects when it is illegal and cut. -Even when legalized, Heroin will be abused for the fact it gets people high, which causes the debilitating health effects.
    • There are more ER visits from Tylenol than heroin. -Really?
    • Legalization of drugs decreases their use. -I have to agree with this.
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    Exactly, they over dosed. If it were legal and prescribed, they would only get enough to not overdose.
    That's stupid. You can overdose on NyQuil and that's legal. Responsibility is the issue, not legality.


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    • Heroin is extremely difficult to overdose on by itself. -Are you sure about this?
    • Heroin is harmless in terms of health effects if it is pure. -People will be abusing it to get high, whether or not it's legalized. And it would be illegal to abuse it to get high. It's not going to be pure when people are using to abuse.
    • Heroin withdrawal cannot kill you. -But it looks nasty, and when they can't stop, they'll just kill themselves.
    • Heroin only has debilitating health effects when it is illegal and cut. -Even when legalized, Heroin will be abused for the fact it gets people high, which causes the debilitating health effects.
    • There are more ER visits from Tylenol than heroin. -Really?
    • Legalization of drugs decreases their use. -I have to agree with this.
    1.) Yes. See
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    . Basically, almost no death attributed to overdose is actually because of overdose. Heroin has a high "therapeutic index:" amount taken for effect divided by dangerous amount.
    2.) I'm suggesting making it legal to get high off of heroin. "For fun" does not mean "abuse", it means "recreational." And when people are buying it from a regulated, legal source to get high, it does mean it will be pure!
    3.) How many people kill themselves over heroin withdrawal? Give me some statistics - because I've never heard of anyone doing this.
    4.) It gets people high by messing with their mu opioid receptors. This is fine on its own, as long as you don't mess with them so much they depend on heroin. Then you have to take a lot of heroin (but it doesn't have any other effect). It has bad health effects because it's cut with things like quinine or people use it with dirty needles. Just because something is fun to take doesn't mean it's bad for you.
    5.) Actually, no. Heroin causes
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    . Those are pretty close numbers, though, especially considering how many more people use Tylenol (everyone in the U.S. except the Amish) than heroin.
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