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  1. 08-03-2012, 02:24 PM
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    Should women be allowed to have an abortion? Or should they continue living with having a child?


    I personally think abortion is wrong. It's the women's fault for getting knocked up in the first place
    unprotected (and the men for ejaculating in their) .


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    #1 dont we already have 50 debate threads open on this?

    But i think its wrong even if it is rape u are still murdering the child-_-
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    I believe that abortion should be allow. If the parent are unable to support the child or if they just plain aren't responsible enough to take care of the him/her the child will grow up with a bad childhood and experience problems.. An abortion should also take place if a person was rape or you will be condemning someone with a child and forever limiting her such as having a harder time to go to school, having to make arrangements, and etc. Abortion usually takes place before 12 weeks (Around 80-90%) while a fetus does not start becoming neurologically active until week 20-24.


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    Based on my religious views I feel that abortion is 100% wrong and unnecessary.

    Why kill or the deny the right of life an innocent and harmless child? Why not at least let the child be born and put he/she up for adoption?

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    Based on my religious views I feel that abortion is 100% wrong and unnecessary.

    Why kill or the deny the right of life an innocent and harmless child? Why not at least let the child be born and put he/she up for adoption?
    There are cases where the mother's life is in danger if she were to have another baby.
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    Based on my religious views I feel that abortion is 100% wrong and unnecessary.

    Why kill or the deny the right of life an innocent and harmless child? Why not at least let the child be born and put he/she up for adoption?
    I believe in a faith, however, I've never been taught my religion or the bible suggests that abortion is specifically "wrong", nor do I believe the bible referencing such acts. I can understand the act of killing another human being is suggested, but in the best interest of the mother and the family, there are good reasons "why" to terminate a pregnancy early.

    Personally, I'm in favour of a Pro-Life and choice position. Frankly, I think the state I'm from (AUS) has a fairly good law in place, that suggests that after 24 weeks, although legal still, an abortion is very uncommon and that it will be up to the decision of two doctors to decide the outcome. Obviously, doctors know what's in the best interest of the baby and mother. So people should be assured, that we aren't simply killing babies for sake of not wanting to have a child.

    Abortion is legal in Victoria. In 2008, The Abortion Law Reform Act decriminalised termination of pregnancy and set out guidelines for when abortion can take place. Any woman of any age can attend an abortion clinic in Victoria and access abortion until she is 24 weeks pregnant. Abortion after 24 weeks is legal, but isn’t commonly performed. Two doctors must agree the termination is appropriate, considering the woman’s relevant medical circumstances and her current and future physical, psychological and social circumstances.

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    I believe in a faith, however, I've never been taught my religion or the bible suggests that abortion is specifically "wrong", nor do I believe the bible referencing such acts. I can understand the act of killing another human being is suggested, but in the best interest of the mother and the family, there are good reasons "why" to terminate a pregnancy early.

    Personally, I'm in favour of a Pro-Life and choice position. Frankly, I think the state I'm from (AUS) has a fairly good law in place, that suggests that after 24 weeks, although legal still, an abortion is very uncommon and that it will be up to the decision of two doctors to decide the outcome. Obviously, doctors know what's in the best interest of the baby and mother. So people should be assured, that we aren't simply killing babies for sake of not wanting to have a child.
    It's mostly because the Catholic church confirmed that life begins at the fertilized egg. Most Christians I know believe in that.


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    I believe in a faith, however, I've never been taught my religion or the bible suggests that abortion is specifically "wrong", nor do I believe the bible referencing such acts. I can understand the act of killing another human being is suggested, but in the best interest of the mother and the family, there are good reasons "why" to terminate a pregnancy early.

    Personally, I'm in favour of a Pro-Life and choice position. Frankly, I think the state I'm from (AUS) has a fairly good law in place, that suggests that after 24 weeks, although legal still, an abortion is very uncommon and that it will be up to the decision of two doctors to decide the outcome. Obviously, doctors know what's in the best interest of the baby and mother. So people should be assured, that we aren't simply killing babies for sake of not wanting to have a child.
    It's mostly because the Catholic church confirmed that life begins at the fertilized egg. Most Christians I know believe in that.
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    @ In cases that the mother knows that she is at risk of having a child, she should not proceed to contraception, and should seek immediate ways in which she can avoid it....

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    I feel you homie! And you are 100% correct, the Bible doesn't specifically mention abortion. But it does say that life in fact starts in the womb!
    Isaiah 44:2, says, "Thus says the LORD who made you And formed you from the womb".


    There are many other verses stating that life is started in the womb. That being said, obviously it is morally wrong to take one's life, therefore abortion is wrong.

    It also de-values human life.

    Also, I believe in fatih, and that Abortions de-value fatih completely! Abortion takes matters into one's on hands and doesn't put faith in God hands to work things out.

    So, that's what I meant by saying "My religious beliefs", however I know that it is my opinion and viewpoint, i'm not condemning anyone that supports it or not, everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

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    @ In cases that the mother knows that she is at risk of having a child, she should not proceed to contraception, and should seek immediate ways in which she can avoid it....
    Well let's say she's already pregnant and she hears the bad news. What would you do in that case?
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    Now we have a debate haha.

    Okay, so basically, there is only one known medical circumstance that warrants an "abortion"

    Because it is better to save one life than too lose two, the procedure done in order to save the mother will in fact kill the baby. However, the death of the child is unintended although forseen. It is not in terms the "traditional abortion" as everyone sees, it is a different case.

    There are a number of conditions that are a threat to the life of the pregnant woman, but they do not warrant abortion, because now, the woman can be treated, and in many cases the child can be saved.

    My dad is an OB/GYN, lol. Just saying

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    I believe that abortion should be allow. If the parent are unable to support the child or if they just plain aren't responsible enough to take care of the him/her the child will grow up with a bad childhood and experience problems.
    One word... Adoption.

    I'm going to pull the "religious beliefs" card here and say that adoption is wrong and should not be allowed. Not only do you destroy a part of yourself during abortion, you're stealing the opportunity for that fetus (whether it's a person or not) to live out their life.
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    I would have to say that i think abortion is no bueno.
    if you are going to get pregnant and kill the baby no matter what the circumstances are (rape,financial instability, etc)
    you have to take responsibility for your actions. Stop playing god and decide if the baby gets to live or die.
    you can always put the baby up for adoption.

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    I believe that abortion should be allow. If the parent are unable to support the child or if they just plain aren't responsible enough to take care of the him/her the child will grow up with a bad childhood and experience problems.. An abortion should also take place if a person was rape or you will be condemning someone with a child and forever limiting her such as having a harder time to go to school, having to make arrangements, and etc. Abortion usually takes place before 12 weeks (Around 80-90%) while a fetus does not start becoming neurologically active until week 20-24.
    I agree with him, being heartless meanie. I dont really care if those babies that haven't even seen light die. What is lost? Nothing, I would rather have a womens life not fucked up by having to support a child that one that is.
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    One word... Adoption.

    I'm going to pull the "religious beliefs" card here and say that adoption is wrong and should not be allowed. Not only do you destroy a part of yourself during abortion, you're stealing the opportunity for that fetus (whether it's a person or not) to live out their life.
    I think you mean abortion? From a mother stand point it is probably harder for her to let go of her newborn baby than to say stop the growth of a fetus. I am just saying that a mother should be allow to choose whether she wants an abortion or to put her baby up for adoption.


    Also for a raped victim the baby resulting from it usually reminds them of the event; bad for their physiological / mental stability.


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    I would have to say that i think abortion is no bueno.
    if you are going to get pregnant and kill the baby no matter what the circumstances are (rape,financial instability, etc)
    you have to take responsibility for your actions. Stop playing god and decide if the baby gets to live or die.
    you can always put the baby up for adoption.
    I don't agree with your statement about rape. The biological mother will have to live with the fact that she gave birth to her rapist's child, and the child will have to live with the fact that his biological father was a rapist and, if he doesn't get put up for adoption, that he's his mother's rapist.


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    Now we have a debate haha.

    Okay, so basically, there is only one known medical circumstance that warrants an "abortion"

    Because it is better to save one life than too lose two, the procedure done in order to save the mother will in fact kill the baby. However, the death of the child is unintended although forseen. It is not in terms the "traditional abortion" as everyone sees, it is a different case.

    There are a number of conditions that are a threat to the life of the pregnant woman, but they do not warrant abortion, because now, the woman can be treated, and in many cases the child can be saved.

    My dad is an OB/GYN, lol. Just saying
    Thanks for informing me of this. I didn't know that beforehand. Nice to see that medical breakthroughs are coming through.
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    Would you abort if the fetus had downs?

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    I agree with op, Abortion is wrong and if you got yourself knocked up in the first place you must be doing something wrong

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    #1 dont we already have 50 debate threads open on this?

    But i think its wrong even if it is rape u are still murdering the child-_-

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    If the woman gets raped I still think she should go through with her pregnancy and the idiot that raped her should seriously get the old fashioned treatment for rape. I don't remember what it was but it was a way for him to not breed anymore children. Abortion is wrong to me because that is a life that has not yet lived and should live and if the mom can't take care of the baby there is guranteed a person or a couple out there wanting to adopt a child.
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    If the woman gets raped I still think she should go through with her pregnancy and the idiot that raped her should seriously get the old fashioned treatment for rape. I don't remember what it was but it was a way for him to not breed anymore children. Abortion is wrong to me because that is a life that has not yet lived and should live and if the mom can't take care of the baby there is guranteed a person or a couple out there wanting to adopt a child.
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